Montreal Canadiens Development Camp'07

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[McCamel]

день 4

Alright guys, here is my report from this morning on some of the players I watched a little closer:

Greg Stewart:
Limited ability with the puck. Struggled with stickhandling drills. Works hard, but this kid might have a tough time cracking the Bulldogs next year on a full-time basis.

Andrew Conboy:
Looks huge out there. His skating seems inconsistent. At times he looks quick and agile, other times he has trouble getting started up. His skills with the puck are still somewhat limited. You can tell he's not a top draft choice, but his size makes him a potentially interesting project for one day down the road if he can develop some.

Olivier Fortier:
He has some pretty slick moves with the puck, which I wasn't necessarily expecting from him. Decent skater. Looks on the small-side out there, at least with this group (he's listed at 5'11", 173lbs).

Ryan Russell:
Not really sure what the Habs' brass saw in him, but I certainly didn't see it today. Small and not overly quick. Has an alright shot, but that's about all I saw positive from him today.

Mathieu Carle:
This guy has a mean wrist shot. Hard, reasonably accurate. His skating doesn't seem to be a weakness, and he is super thick. The Habs list him at 5'11", 215lbs, making him the heaviest guy in the camp! Good potential there, should be an interesting season for his development. I think he should be able to see decent ice time in the AHL, especially if say O'Byrne sticks in Montreal. A decent day for Carle.

PK Subban:
Has some good wheels, but I wouldn't rave about his performance today. Nothing bad, but nothing special either. He came as reported, joking around, initiating a bit of rough housing. He looked ok in all drills.

Ryan McDonagh:
I like him. Despite being listed at 6'1", 204 lbs, he looked small to me compared to most of the others. Or average-sized anyway. Pretty good skater, alright with the puck. The potential is definitely there, but he'll need a couple of years in college.

Ryan White:
There was a stickhandling drill early on, where most of the forwards tried little slick dekes around cones. Not Ryan. He just basically swerved around them. And that's how he played it most of the day. Nothing fancy, just doing what he was told. He did have one brilliant movie where he undressed Kishel one-on-one and then poked it through the goaltender's five-hole, but aside from that, a quiet day. He is well filled out.

David Fischer:
I like his height, and if he could add some muscle or weight, he'd be a tank. But really really needs to fill out. He is talking a lot out there, likes to joke around. Seems like a good kid. Decent skills with the puck. Skating is average in the group. Again, the potential is there, but he's not close to the NHL or anything. At least another 2 years in college, then maybe a bit of time in Hamilton, but he's promising for the future.

Joe Stejskal:
I believe someone said here earlier in the week that on some plays Stejskal looks great, and on others, he seems like he's a step behind. This is dead-on accurate. There is potential there, cause he shows good poise on some plays, but he'll certainly need to work on his consistency if he wants to make something of his career. But at only 18, he has time to do so.

Max Pacioretty:
I really love this kid, even if his other days might have been better based on earlier reports from other posters. Great size, good skater. He has some slick moves around the net. He struggled a bit in a drill where you had to skate pulling another player (he was with Paquet, so I guess that has something to do with it), so maybe he'll need to add a bit more strength, but I like this pick a lot and he could become something special.

Philippe Paquet:
I had no expectations for Paquet, but he really impressed me today. He was sound in all areas, in terms of skating, with the puck, and defending. He was one of the few willing to take the body and mix it up a tad in one-on-one drills. He doesn't get the rep of some of our other prospects, but I really believe he could make it to the big show some day. I like what I saw.

Pavel Valentenko:
Great day for him IMO. He looks the most NHL-ready of all guys at the camp, so reports on him are accurate. He put on a show in the drill of skating while pulling a teammate. Was an absolute beast there pulling Wyman around. Good shot, good with the puck. There was a report earlier in the week that he was kind of alone at the camp, well that wasn't the case at all today. Guys were always talking to him (dunno how much he understood lol), high fiving him, tapping his shin pads (especially coaches and Aubin, who played a leadership role with a lot of guys). Should do great in Hamilton and will be in Montreal sooner than later. Took it easy on some drills, but performed all of them with poise and the stature of a veteran.

Ben Maxwell:
Not huge in terms of size, but FILLED with potential. Maxwell will IMO not be a mid-level player or prospect. He will either not put things together and straight out bust, or become a star. He had trouble with his first stickhandling drill of the day, but after that was sensational. He has great moves and a good shot. He had a sweet deflection goal on a 2-on-1 with Carle. He should be primed for a huge year in Juniors, and I'm very anxious to see how he'll do at the next level. A strong day overall, and expect to hear lots about this guy in the near future.

I don't think any of the goaltenders looked great. Loverock is a really big guy, but he didn't impress me much. Both Lacasse and Desjardins were good at times with some big saves, but were nothing special on the whole. Then again it's tough to evaluate a goalie from just like 2-on-1s and 2-on-0s.

My three stars on the day:
3 - Philippe Paquet
2 - Pavel Valentenko
1 - Ben Maxwell

Honourable Mentions to Max Pacioretty and Mathieu Carle.

It was a fun morning, and I hope to go back on Sunday. I have some pics and short clips that I'll upload a bit later for y'all.

[Tomasz]

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[Stanley]

День 4:
Вот мой отчет о тех ребятах, за которыми я наблюдал более внимательно:

Грег Стюарт:
Ограниченные возможности с шайбой. Не все получалось в упражнениях на владение клюшкой. Пашет, но этот парень испытает трудности со стабильным попаданием в состав Бульдогов в следующем сезоне…

Эндрю Конбой:
Выглядит просто огромным. Катание неоднозначное. Временами выглядит быстрым и ловким, временами имеет сложности со стартом. Навыки владения шайбой отчасти ограничены. Нельзя сказать, что он стоит высокого выбора на драфте, но размеры делают его потенциально интересным проспектом, при условии, что он покажет прогресс.

Оливье Фортье:
Владеет несколькими хитрыми движениями с шайбой, чего я от него не ожидал. Приличное катание. Выглядит мелковатым на фоне группы (указан как 178 см, 78 кг).

Райан Рассел:
Не знаю, что особенное увидели в нем Хабс, но лично я ничего такого сегодня не заметил. Маленький и не очень быстрый. Имеет неплохой бросок, но это единственный позитив из замеченных мной сегодня.

Матье Карль:
Хороший кистевой бросок - сильный, достаточно точный. Катание тоже не относится к слабым сторонам, а еще он очень коренастый. Указан как 178 см, 97 кг – это делает его самым тяжелым парнем в лагере! Хороший потенциал, сезон должен быть интересным в плане его развития. Думаю, он должен получить порядочное время на льду в АХЛ, особенно если ОБирн зацепится за Монреаль. Неплохой день для Карля.

ПК Саббан:
Хорошо катается, но я не в особом восторге от его сегодняшнего дня. Ничего плохого, но и ничего выдающегося. Как от него уже и ожидают, шутит, создает ненапряжную атмосферу. Во всех упражнениях выглядел хорошо.

Райан МакДонаф:
Мне он нравится. Не смотря на то, что указан как 183 см, 92 кг, выглядел небольшим в сравнении с большинством других. Средние габариты он имеет в любом случае. Довольно хороший скейтер, хорош с шабой. Потенциал определенно есть, но ему нужно провести пару лет в колледже.

Райан Уайт:
В начале было упражнение на владение клюшкой, где большинство форвардов делали простые финты-обводки вокруг конусов. Но не Райан. Он просто кружил вокруг конусов, и так практически целый день во всех упражнениях – никаких причуд, делал только то, что было сказано. Один раз показал великолепное движение, сделал Кишела один на один, а потом послал шайбу мимо вратаря. Кроме этого – обычный день. Физически выглядит гармонично.

Дэвид Фишер:
Мне нравиться его рост, если добавит мускулов или просто веса – будет просто танк. Очень-очень надо добавить веса… Общается, любит пошутить. Похоже, хороший парень. Порядочное владение шайбой. Катание среднее на фоне группы. Опять же, потенциал есть, но от НХЛ он еще далек. По крайней мере, 2 года в колледже, потом какое-то время в Хамилтоне, но будущее многообещающее.

Джо Стейскал:
По-моему, кто-то сказал на этой неделе, что моментами Стейскал выглядит отлично, а моментами выглядит, будто сделал шаг назад. Это замечание просто в точку. Есть потенциал, показывает уравновешенность, баланс временами, но ему определенно надо работать над стабильностью, если он хочет чего-то добиться в своей карьере. Но ему только 18 – время есть.

Макс Пасиоретти:
Мне реально нравится этот парень, не смотря на то, что в другие дни он смотрелся лучше, по словам других. Отличные габариты, хорошее катание. Владеет техникой для работы под воротами. Был не очень в упражнении, когда надо было толкать другого игрока (он был с Паке, поэтому ему было не легко), поэтому ему возможно надо добавить немного физики. Но, в общем, мне нравится этот выбор, может вырасти в нечто особенное.

Филипп Паке:
Я ничего не ожидал от Паке, но он реально впечатлил меня сегодня. Хорош во всех отношениях – в катании, с шайбой, в защите. Был одним из тех, кто играл в тело. Не хватает звезд с неба в сравнении с некоторыми топ-проспектами, но я действительно верю, что он может заиграть однажды на высшем уровне. Мне понравилось то, что я видел.

Павел Валентенко:
Отличный день для него, по моему мнению. Среди всех ребят выглядит практически готовым к НХЛ, так что информация о нем была точна. Показал класс в упражнении по толканию партнера. Был просто лучшим, когда толкал Уаймэна. Хороший бросок, хорош с шайбой. На неделе писали, что он держится одиночкой в лагере, ну, сегодня этого не было видно. Ребята постоянно заговаривали с ним (не знаю, что он понял из сказанного , давали пять, похлопывали клюшкой по голени (особенно тренера и Обен, который играет роль лидера для многих ребят). Павел должен отлично заиграть в Хамилтоне и оказаться в Монреале в скором времени. Без напряжения подходил ко всем упражнениям, но выполнял их с уверенностью и качеством ветерана.

Бен Максвелл:
Не очень велик по габаритам, но ПОЛОН потенциала. ПО МОЕМУ МНЕНИЮ, Максвелл не будет игроком-середняком. Он или не достигнет ничего, или станет звездой. Имел проблемы в первом упражнении на владение клюшкой, но после него был просто сенсационен. Владеет великолепными движениями и хорошим броском. Забил классный гол, изменив траекторию полета шайбы после броска Карля в упражнении 2 на 1. Должен показать отличный сезон в юниорах. Я с нетерпением жду, чтобы увидеть его на следующем уровне. Сильный день для него, жду, что услышу многое об этом парне в ближайшем будущем.

По вратарям:
Не думаю, что кто-либо из вратарей выглядел классно. Лаврок реально большой парень, но не очень меня впечатлил. И Лакасс и Дежарден были хороши временами, делая классные сэйвы, но в общем тоже ничего особенного сегодня. Опять же, было тяжело оценивать вратарей лишь по упражнениям 2 на 1 и против двух без защиты.

Мои три звезды дня:
3 – Паке
2 – Валентенко
1 – Максвелл
Похвала Пасиоретти и Карлю.

[McCamel]

Итоги кэмпа:

So here comes my final report, which means what it means, just a report from a fan who's just reporting as he's seeing. I'm no specialist as far as HFBoards type of rating so I'm not going to go that route, though I may do some exceptions for some. Again, as a reminder, this was merely a skills camp with only 1 scrimmage 3 on 3 and where even in that scrimmage some players were even not playing their natural position. Those guys are just kids and some still has some growing to do so again, it is what it is......Also, please understand that if I say a player should make it or not, doesn't mean they'll do or won't....(just checking, don't want people to come at me saying "how do you know that", there's still some growth in them and so on..." This is just an opinion.

GOALIES

DESJARDINS: This is a goalie who I didn't think was big enough or fast enough to make a difference in any Pro league so let me tell you first that I was really surprised with how he conducted himself in Cincinnati last year. Just shows how determined he was but also how he did improve positionnally and how he's a little more agile that he was before. So I believe there is still growing to do as far as his skills.....but not that much. May become at best a good backup in the AHL but should not go further, at least I don't expect him to be. I think he had an OK week but surely didn't blow anything away, especially for a guy who had at least 1 year in the pros more than the 2 others.

LACASSE: Okay I'm totally bias here since I wasn't for him when he was picked, and never liked him. Strangely, I think we had the "chance" of seeing him on TV at least 3 times this year and all 3 times he looked kinda good despite being scored on more than he would've seen. And throughout the year, the kid was bombarded with an average of at least 40 shots per game so a high ERA was too be expected. I know the Habs brass thought he deserved a contract so they gave one to him but still I don't understand why, may has to do with just having some depth like Montreal once told us. Anyway, another guy who did just OK for me this week, while I do have to acknowledge that he looks better laterally and has that incredible tendancy of going way too soon on his knees and despite his size doesn't cover the net as much as I would like him too. His future is with Cincinnati. Can't even see an AHL future for him but still there was some pretty bad goalies in that league as well so we can't never know. Goalies could develop much further down the road than players.

LOVEROCK: Didn't expect anything, was pretty curious to see why he wasn't chosen in this past draft so obviously he kinda surpassed my expectations but clearly had a much better first part of the week than the last one. Gave us some pretty weak goals at one point. But still, if I have the bad habit of comparing Lacasse when I first saw him to him, I kinda like more the latter. He's awesomly big, or that's how I see him, seems to have a OK glove, but needs to work a lot blocker side, and positionnally. His lateral movement is somewhat subpar in some occasions and OK in others. Obviously, it's just sign of a young player who still needs to improve and I kinda believe he will. How they'll address his case is beyond me, but I still believe he's the best try-out I've seen in a long time. I have no idea about his potentiel, way too soon to tell, needs work, but who doesn't, but still I found him alright. For all those reasons, I kinda want to name him best goalie out there, for giving us better things than expected for a non-drafted goalie and compared to most experienced goaltenders, he then got my vote.

Best goalie: ANDREW LOVEROCK

D-MAN

MATHIEU CARLE: Didn't like the pick when it was done and while I like the kid way more, I obviously have questions marks about him. Strangely, I think his last year's camp was better, he had more opportunities to show his tape to tape passes, and ultra smooth skating. While he was still the same smooth skater, I think he stumbled more this year but still he was somewhat able to contain some big forwards in 1 on 1 drills. Let's remember though that there was some 2 on 1 this week I wasn't able to attend so I obviously can't judge that. But from what I've seen he wasn't pushed around so much which is a good thing for a d-men of his stature. I would so much like to see him bigger though. There's still some question marks for me as far as even just making the NHL. I know I might be totally wrong but that is just what I think right now. Still needs to work on his shot while the accuracy is quite good. Mostly his slapper, while his wrister is OK right now. Would need to improve defensively and get stronger all around. Even though he had some skating problems, it's an understatement that his skating and his passing game will help him down the road. But most definately some seasoning in Hamilton will permit to see how he can develop his game in the Pros.

CAMERON CEPEK: Okay, you'll hear this for the last time....are you ready??? My god did this kid grow or what???? . I'm really wondering how playing in a expension team will help or not his game. My problem with him is that in the Pros, when you don't get notice too much for a d-man, it usually means you're doing your job properly. I just don't believe it's case for a Junior, at least it could mean that it helps your junior team, but it might also mean that your development is stalling a little adn you might not have at least that 1 great quality to go further. I just don't expect for Cameron to bring it and so I don't see an NHL future for him. Might become a defensive 6th man in Hamilton one day, I don't see real upside. Nothing is great, everything is just OK. Don't believe OK will cut it on a NHL Stanley Cup winner.... He did improve his size, his skating and his positional play but not by a big WOW!

DAVID FISCHER: Some might say that it's disappointed to see the season he had last year as far as points are concerned, and then some might understand that the kid was just getting out of college, playing behind big stars, not playing a lot and most definately seeing a lot of PP ice time if any.....Now as far as potentiel, you could CLEARLY see that it's there, his hands, his smooth skating with his enormous strides, I don't have any problems with him except 2......everything that needs to do with a raw prospect, which is concentration, consistency and so on....AND his shot. I have some concerns about it right now both slapper and wrister but most definately wrister. Most of the time I saw really weak ones by him. Did I just wasn't that lucky that everytime I saw him that's what I saw, maybe, but I may be awfully not lucky 'cause I looked a lot of time David and see this continuous weak shot shift after shift. Again, it's pretty easy to do the comparison game so when I compare both him and McDonagh, I can truly say that McDonagh should be ready sooner due to how steady he looks compared to him. So Fischer might think of completing his University before heading here and then he might have everything he needs to compete. He's still truly raw, but he works hard, want to learn, has definatley a great mind set, so he will do it. But maybe not sooner than some could have thought. If everything comes together at the right time, right place, most definately top 4, but now that we know that he can be rock solid defensively, 1 on 1 and so on, he needs to bring his offensive game to another level to say the least.

SCOTT KISHEL: Hope that the guy has the growing Cepek had in 1 year, but most definately the player who showed all week that there's a looooooooooong way to go...if any. Most definatley looks more than a forward than a d-man, I did see today some good exercices by him especially concerning the sharp turns (I had to find something good....) So most definatley out of the class of 2007 him and another of my "favorite" didn't show a whole lot but it could all change so fast. Still, it was a little too much for him but kept a good spirit and worked hard all week. I did see some good wristers from him. I didn't see any grit whatsoever in his game, way too shy, but I'm still wondering if going from d-man to forward wouldn't help him. Anyway, let's wait and see how he develops. And hope he'll be another man in 1 year for better reviews.

RYAN MCDONAGH: POTENTIAL!!!! I like the kid. Great skating, great balance, good stickhandling but still needs to work on pivots and some turns while skating forward (if that makes any sense, I know what I mean). He had a great begininng of the week and was probably one of the guys who really showed that it was a tough week 'cause in the end, it looked more difficult. Had a tough day Saturday with some Souray's moments of his own but showed a great hockey sense when PK tried to bump him out of the arena and smoothly got out of his way. I truly see a great 2-way about him, most definatley top 2 for me in the future, but I'm still wondering about the 2-year time Timmins gave us about the kid. He will be something great, but 2 years? To me it looks a little bit premature. Another that needs to work on his wristers, but as far as he's concerned, it looked more as him being too nice to the goalies than just a bad shot. 'Cause I did see a couple of his shots on the boards, and it looked and sounded way harder than I saw in a couple of occasions on the goalies. And I'm talking about the wrister, 'cause he has a great and accurate slapper already. Good job by the 1st rounder.

PHILIPPE PAQUET: I'm in the Phillippe Paquet bandwagon now. And then don't get me wrong. He's not going top 2 on any teams. But he's a rock solid defender, who always play the man, has an really underrated skating ability, even sharp turns, a tremendous wrister and really great slapper who though is not always accurate. Though his game will not translate as being offensive, which is a shame 'cause he had the hardest wrister out there with PK, it is possible that one day he plays in the NHL solely based on his mean, rough, steady defensive performance and even moreso if he adds a little bit of offense in him. I think most of us saw a lot of potentiel in O'Byrne the first time we saw him, and while I'm not saying he's a clone, I did see in most occasions the same scenario where Paquet was really dominating out there. Okay, his 3 on 3 scrimmage didn't placed him in the best scenario ever, you're sure you're not going to see him in a 3 on 3 in the NHL....but I still think his hockey sense is underrated and he could at least hold his ground with his play.....But he's also a candidate to see his development stalling and never do much than what he's doing now. But I would be really surprised that he never at least be a regular in the AHL and begin by being a call-up in the NHL. But I think he could be an easy #5-#6 steady, tough d-man and adds some points with his shot. Great job nonetheless this week!

JOE STEJSKAL: I think he did well for a 2007. He's most definately a candidate for the potentiel to develop even more 'cause he showed me that in most occasions. How? Well one day he's great, then he's awful.... Which means if he can bring his game to great all the time, he might be useful. What impressed me the most for a guy who truly looks bigger than his 187lbs, is his skating and his great balance on his skates. This open ice hit against Stewart was truly great to see yesterday and showed that he wasn't shy about what he does best. It's still undefined as to who his offensive game will translate but as any 2007 picks it's way too soon to say how he'll develop. But since he's capable to go from great to bad in an instant, I can't believe how he'll develop if he goes to great and stays there....Will he be able to? But most definately needs to work on all aspects of the game but looks like a great kid to coach most definately.

PK SUBBAN: I think enough is said about him. Great slapper, great wrister, tremendous speed, tremendous energy, I'm really eager to see what he does against tougher competition and more experienced. Will he still be eager to throw the body like he did? And how about that scouting report who called him one of the softiest player in this year's draft? Is throwing the body a new thing for him? Or did he just do that 'cause he thought he could dominate physically this bunch of guys but won't be able to in this upcoming rookie camp? Can't wait to see that. But as a 2007, was really impressive, and his defensive camp, while not being perfect, was far from being the disaster as adversied....but obviously this wasn't in a game situation so we'll see. Still think he'll end up top 4, while guys like MCDo and Fischer might end up top 3. But as a developement camp goes, an overall tremendous and impressive job.

NICHLAS TORP: In the end, it did seem a little too much for him this week. But then he looked really good in the scrimmage so it's great to see in game situation that he's able to conduct himself really well, throwing the body and play good positionnally. As the majority of 2007, had a good portion of the week and a bad one. Earlier this week, was overpowered by a majority of guys in 1 on 1 drills, but was really solid in this other 1 on 1 drills Saturday. Was able to place his body adequately this time between the opponent and the puck and had this groove going for some time. And while his skating is good, he had to perfect that and so his shot and so his overall strength. So as of now, and still I have no choice but to give my opinion right now, I don't see him as being an NHL'er. And again, if it's by comparison, and I would compare him to the small d-men that we have and while I understand they don't play a similar game, I would prefer seeing Carle and Weber before him. But he does bring a tough game when he hits a lot, doesn't hurt a lot of people but doesn't back down and while giving his bodychecks, is not always on the worst end of it. But when somebody comes at him, he might be easily overpowered. But believe he played better positionnaly near the end of the camp. There is some adaptations for everyone....

PAVEL VALENTENKO: Didn't see him in the scrimmage which sucks, but it was enough to see that this mature, composed, plain solid player will be great one day. I do see the Volchenkov's comparison A LOT so he will definately play in the NHL sooner than later. Obviously not this year, at least 1 year in Hamilton but he will make it. Looked like a man playing with boys, his puck protection skills as a d-man is impressive, he has a good wrister and slapper, really accurate. Great hockey sense to go with that. Still wonder how his offensive game will translate that's my biggest question mark 'cause defensively, there's no question marks....

YANNICK WEBER: A good camp for the kid. Just love how he skates, really fluid, like his wrister, didn't see too much of slappers on his end. Probably the smallest guy with the hardest shot. While, like Torp, he can be easily overpowered, I did see some grit in his game where he didn't like to be thrown down a lot and kinda retaliate to show he wasn't too happy about it. Looked like a Mark Streit to me how even for a 2007 I could as far as saying that I see him in the NHL. It will take some time but he has some great qualities that may overcome his size. Though like every undersized, will need to get stronger but that's an understatement. A good overall camp again for a 2007

Best d-men: Subban/Valentenko (him missing the last 2 days can't win)
Greatest potentiel: McDonagh/Fischer
Long way to go (might play at higher level but needs more time to put it all together): Stejskal/Weber/Torp
Should not make it: Kishel/Cepek
Greatest surprise: Paquet
Dissapointment: Carle (my problem, was expecting more)

FORWARDS

MATHIEU AUBIN: I was and still are a big Aubin fan. For one reason, we can't have enough big centers who can not only rack some points but could not be afraid of mixing it up a little bit. While the latter is not proven, I'm still a little afraid he'll turn out Urquhart #2, he seems less hesitant to put his nose in traffic and drive the net a little more than his counterpart. Having said that, I was really dissapoint by his week. This guy was a veteran compared to the others and didn't look that much superior to say the least. Sure he does have some good stickhandling and some good hockey sense but his skating while not poor is still not up to par and didn't do much to distinguish himself. He does have a good wrister and at some point showed some leadership by going to guys and giving them some encouragements and instructions....though most of the time he's the one who needed it the most. Would absolutely love to see him getting a regular spot with the Dogs, they would desperately need some centers down there, but he will need to upgrade his play by a whole lot.

THOMAS BEAUREGARD: Well it's true, this guy can score!!!! Awesome scrimmage, a little bit more quiet during the drills where it shows that he needs another speed to his toolbox. He also needs to not be afraid to mix it up while he did play a little on the perimeter and not being that much of a difference defensively. Right now, I don't see him being a NHL'er but some seasoning and development at the AHL is exactly was this kid needs. And who knows, with great coaching and some work on his part he might develop the other aspects of the game he needs to go further. But he definately got a great hard but most definately accurate wrister, awesome hands and knack for scoring. Time to now put that to the test and against tougher and bigger competition to make a real assessment on how he'll be able to progress and upgrade his play. His small frame, his lack of grit and speed are most definately real problems, but his 1 great quality, his really great! Will see! But an OK camp overall for him where besides the shot and the scrimmage it wasn't unbelievable but at least he translated his real asset in real results. Timmins said that he's one-dimensional and so he has to at least get it done, he did this week. Now time to work on ALL these other things, foot speed, grit, defensive work.....

ANDREW CONBOY: Oh...boy.....Is big, I mean really big. And has a big smile, wants to learn, works hard, that was really fun to see him today with Gingras on his first step quickness, he was running on the ice, that was great to see. The good news is that for a big guy, who still needs to know how to play with this frame of his, is that in straight line he's actually not slow. The worst news now is everything else for me.....foot speed is slow, stickhandling needs work, hockey sense a lot of it and the rest....Is pretty tough, doesn't seem that he'll back down from anybody and defensively responsible but even there....I just don't see it at all.....never......Put some crow on reserve for me, I'll gladly eat it if ever this guy plays in the NHL, and not even sure in the AHL though a guy like Troy Bodie played 20 games for Hamilton this year, but even Bodie looked better....much better. ECHL'er for life for Mr. Conboy for me. I know it's soon but I believe there's too much things to learn in this short period of time that is 4 years....at least for him....Definately not a typical Timmins pick, don't see what they saw in him. Were they tempted to try and hit a Milan Lucic type of homerun, big tough guy who could put it all together one day and be that enforcer with some kind of talent able to play in a regular spot? Maybe....But I would've pick Allard or Hellgren before him....Thanks for the spirit though Andrew, was fun to see you have fun.

OLIVIER FORTIER: And for the 2nd time, call me bias, but I love how this kid skate, love how he brings it on every play, every shift, I believe is offensive play while underrated is actually not that bad, he showed some accurate top shelf shots in some occasions. Was definately there to compete, while he has some serious bulking to do, I believe he'll play as a 3rd liner in the NHL some day. Okay fortunately or unfortunately and while he was wearing #38, he looked like a real young Jan Bulis with his smooth skating......Good or Bad???? But I really believe he'll play in the NHL one day. Needs to upgrade his offensives next year and pay attention a little more to his stickhandling and he'll be fine. Not the greatest upside of all but I believe it was a great safe and surefire pick at the time and still think he is. I really believe he had a good week.

BENJAMIN MAXWELL: Most definately the most gifted offensive prospect out there this week with the greatest hands, underrated deceiving speed with and without the puck. As far as his week was concerned, I would've hope to see him a little more committed but he did his thing and mostly doing it better than most of the guys. Like everybody says, his tendancy of dissapearing when the going gets tough might dictate how his game will translate and what his potentiel will be. But I can't see how this guy won't play in the NHL. Not a #1 center, but most definately a #2. While he has a great hockey sense and a comparison with Richards is not too far away from his potentiel, I see translating it more to a poor-man's version than the real thing....which should not end up as being that bad anyway. Can't wait for him to show his stuff at the rookie camp and at the real one. He did great last year, needs to show some improvement.

MAX PACIORETTY: Definately a great camp for him this week! I'm impressed by the maturity of the guy and his game while showing his great hands, shot, balance, hockey sense and passing abilities. I see a lot of potentiel in this guy and while McDonagh will turn out as being a great pick, possibility that this kid becomes a better one. And to think that the growing might not be over is scary....scary good....Can't say enough great things about him, totally ecstatic about him, so much that I can't be rational....so as far as potential, I'm at the point of saying 1st line with 40 goals but please don't mind me, just way too excited to analyse this boy calmly.... Does need to work on his speed though he's definately not slow, on the contrary, some foot work and some small things like that, he'll be awesome. A perfect power forward to be that needs more time to be more complete. But I don't know how you can't be excited about him. Great Week!!!!

RYAN RUSSELL: I saw a couple of great wristers from him showing his accuracy....but that was it for the whole week. Wasn't impressed to say the least, still wondering what they saw in him. Wondering what he brought that we didn't have already? Don't have a lot to say, let's wait and see how he brings it with the Dogs, if he makes it, 'cause I still have my reservations about it. Where's the grit in this guy, anyone know?

GREGORY STEWART: Greg does bring something we don't have a lot with the team which is a real presence in his 2-way game with a punch that is quite there for a guy that size though he's not an enforcer per se. While the potentiel is real limited and that he may never make the NHL, he should develop in a responsible good 2 way forward with the Dogs for years to come. Might develop his scoring touch and be effective for a higher level. So an OK week, though I might have expected better since he's a little older than the others and had some experiences at higher levels. Would love to see him gain a regular spot with the Dogs, so we'll see. So not hot, not cold, just OK but still a prospect to see evolve with time and not let him go liek that. We need guys that play that kinda of role and if it's not with the big team, at least with the smaller one to accompany our kids and let them develop with the presence he'll bring with him. Still like him, but definatley not the greatest potentiel out there.

RYAN WHITE: Like I said already, and while I do understand that his game is better suited for tough 5 on 5 game situation, I still have some reservation about him and that even with the type of season he had last year. Surprised I was to say the least about that last season, never in my right mind did I think he had that kind of season in him after seeing that development camp last year. So let me first say that he had a much better camp this year, so he did improve his overall skills. But then skating, while better, is not there in my opinion, and I'm just wondering if 212lbs is a great weight for him. Looked as if he might be a little heavy and could need to play a little lighter to find some other speed in his repertoire.....But then he does play hard, in your face type of hockey and that again is something we don't have a lot especially combined with a guy who still has a nose for those garbage goals we desperately need. I mean at one point, who cares about how you score when just how many is more important. And while he brings all of that, he brings energy, great spirit and totally a coachable kid on top of that. But for the sake of this camp, he was OK this year, especially in the scrimmage and showing how good he could be along the boards and how balance he was when he's battling for the puck. If he can adjust his game and upgrade his level of skating and stickhandling, he has everything to bring his potential to another level and still is. But stickhandling wise and skate wise.....still a tough week.....just not his game....

JAMES T. WYMAN: So you know by now my obsession for this kid. Moreso 'cause he improved his stickhandling by mile, he has a presence when he's on the ice, looks like a great kid to be around and now that we know that he's used on defense as well, as that great versatily any team needs. I still think there's some untapped offensive potential there especially since he has that great wrister he always had but seemed more on target this year. This is truly a case of he has a lot of tools and needs to put it all together. 'Cause he also could be candidate of never being offensive enough to ever make it in the NHL or make it and be a force to reckon with TO SOME EXTENT. Has a great defensive mindset, saw him a couple of times this week with the mind of a d-man especially in the scrimmage and he did well. Find he has a good hockey sense while not being spectacular, like I said a great arsenal of shots, a frame to die for, absolutely solid on his skates and probably the one who was more willing and had more fun driving the net everytime he could. Love the kid and since things highly of him and expect bigger things for him to come. But again, he might be a candidate to see his developement stall and not make it. But I sure hope not. Good week for him!

Best forward: Maxwell/Pacioretty
Greatest potentiel: Pacioretty/Maxwell
Long way to go (might play at higher level but needs more time to put it all together): Stewart/Wyman/Beauregard
Should not make it: Conboy/Russell
Greatest surprise: Pacioretty/Wyman (nice upgrade from last year)
Dissapointment: Aubin/Russell/White (to a certain extent 'cause I was expecting more from him skills wise, again my problem, has nothing to do with the game he plays in a regular season)

I tried to put names on every category though some names were too hard not too mention twice. Please also note that while my english is OK, it's definatley not up to par so a lot of things in my mind, I made the most of it on paper but it may not always be the greatest wording ever (like what I'm trying to say here...) There is much more than what I've said but that's how I was able to put it.

Was a fun week to go to, 4 days out 6 for me, was great reporting it to you guys and can't wait to see some of those kids at the rookie camp and again at the regular camp. Won't be able to report any of those ones, though it depends when the rookie camp will be (but I might attend at least over the weekend) so I hope some of us will be able to attend.

Will see ya on other threads boys, that's it for me!

я не смогу до пятницы это перевести, поэтому если Стэнли будет так бобр... можно даже на сайте повесить...

[Stanley]

Повесил
Здоровый отчетище, еле заставил себя его перевести... Ну теперь до конца августа можно будет отдыхать

[McCamel]

Повесил
Здоровый отчетище, еле заставил себя его перевести... Ну теперь до конца августа можно будет отдыхать

Отдых на 100% заслужен, спасибо за перевод, и за то что мне не пришлось эту работу делать .

[Horvat]

Повесил
Здоровый отчетище, еле заставил себя его перевести... Ну теперь до конца августа можно будет отдыхать

Стэн - ЧЕЛОВЕЧИЩЕ, рахмат

[Dan]

Повесил
Здоровый отчетище, еле заставил себя его перевести... Ну теперь до конца августа можно будет отдыхать

МОЩЬ!!!!
Спосибо!!!!

[Lafleur]

MERCI, STAN!!!

[phil333]

в свете известных фактов,меня терзают смутные догадки,по каким именно причинам Валентенко выглядел взрослее большинства своих сверстников на этих сборах...

[Kosta]

Огромное спасибо за перевод, очень интересно.

[booha_now]

в свете известных фактов,меня терзают смутные догадки,по каким именно причинам Валентенко выглядел взрослее большинства своих сверстников на этих сборах...

да он семьдесят третьего года рождения, хренлив...

[phil333]

да он семьдесят третьего года рождения, хренлив...

вот-вот,я о том же правда, 73-ий - ты хватил,конечно,жесткач а на год-другой постарше ,чем в метрике-это ближе к реальности,милое дело.

[Tomasz]

в свете известных фактов,меня терзают смутные догадки,по каким именно причинам Валентенко выглядел взрослее большинства своих сверстников на этих сборах...

Ты российских спецслужб не опасаешься? А то как Литвиненко проглотишь ртутный градусник при невыясненных обстоятельствах...